In this episode, Bryon has a deep conversation with his friend James Kendal where they talk about cycling and how to get future generations to take up this amazing activity. All that and more on this episode of Calgary Living: Real Estate and Lifestyle. Connect with James here: Instagram: @roadie_james Connect with Bryon here: www.thehowardteam.net https://www.facebook.com/thehowardteamcalgary https://www.instagram.com/calgary_living/ Email: bryon@thehoeardteam.net Phone: 403-589-0004
Well folks, welcome to another edition of living in Calgary today. I am pleased to have my old friend James Kendall on the show. James and I met back in 2010 in, well, you wouldn't believe it. I should have met a few friends like James on Twitter on, uh, on Twitter. We met on Twitter follow Friday somehow.
And, uh, I remember that that was great. Um, James is a, and then we w as a, as we got to know each other, uh, we were chasing each other's on bicycles, bikes, bike racing, and, uh, we've become, uh, quite, uh, quite good competitors and good friends as a, we try to hold each other's wheel. And Jen, James has surpassed my wheel and moved on to higher levels in the bike racing community here in Alberta.
He's a cat one, two racer. Well I'm meanwhile, I stayed pretty much cat three and. He is currently he lives in Canmore with his wife, Misty of 18 years, 11 year old daughter, Alison he's worked in the L a long career in hospitality of, in the winery, lots of wineries, uh, hotels and restaurants. And currently I'm well, actually recently four or five years ago, teams.
And we'll get into a little bit, I was quite worried about you with cancer. He beat it. I think he went out to stage four cancer and, um, and he is bike racing again and has been for at least a couple of years and are not really because of COVID, but training and currently getting ready for a cyclocross season and working on a new startup James, welcome to the show.
Hey well, thanks, Brian. It's great to see you. And, uh, I don't, I don't think I've seen you in person since we did a big ride, a ride for rhino last year. Uh, quite a, just in may of 20, uh, 20, 20 may of 2020 COVID. Yeah, that was such a pleasure to do. And that kind of started at the COVID season. Um, so tell us a little bit about that ride James.
It was up to that point. My second longest ride ever. 200, we did like 270 K or something. Yeah, we did a, it was, it was 2, 2 50 and change. And that was also my second longest ride. We did a Mito Canada ride many years ago. That was about the same distance, but that ride was a, in remembrance of a well-known, uh, endurance racer in 24 hour of a winter Ryan, Cory, who was diagnosed with stage four, colon cancer in the same week that I was.
And sadly he did not survive, but, uh, his memory certainly is gone in the, in the queue. What year was that it was 2017, I think 2017, July of 2017. Yeah. That week he did something epic. And, um, and so did you, you were both like, kind of on the podiums of, uh, of racing and at the sort of the D within a day or two of each other, um, were both, uh, diagnosed with stage four, colon cancer.
Is that right? Yeah. So Ryan, um, um, he, he won the 24 hours of adrenaline and he knew that something was wrong. He had had a lot of pain and, um, he, uh, he raced and he raced through that pain. He won the race. And then sadly, you know, his, uh, same doctor's knee core Badger coffee, or you had a colonoscopy and then they say, yeah, it was bad news.
Um, for myself, I knew something was wrong and it had been going on for a good four or five months, but you know, the triage to get the diagnosis. I just kept living with it and going through the process, um, paying attention to my body training training. Started to get harder and harder each month, uh, as each funds went by.
I mean, I went down to Mexico and rode with national speed getting team for four days. And Joel Roski banging off 200 kilometers a day and how this go state. And I was like, I don't know what I was doing to myself, but to get back to the point, same, uh, the week previous, you know, Ryan, he won the 24 hours.
And I, uh, did the provincial matters road race and broke away with, uh, Stephen money from Edmonson and Doug real, real, real deep. And it's like left it all out there. Cause I knew the next day I was going in for scope and uh, and I figured something wasn't right, right. So, and then the next day, um, it was technically, it was stage 3.5 colon cancers.
Wow. 65%, 65% risk of, uh, of a, of, of death. Um, but triaged quickly got into the system in Calgary. Amazing, amazing, uh, surgeons in, in cancer docs at Tom baker and Peter White center there. Um, uh, they were confident. I was physically fit, said you could beat it. And I just looked at it. Um, I went about it like I would training.
It was like, you know, next year in my life is training for something completely different. Um, also a big part of it was, you know, getting that support from the community, uh, to survive, right? Like if you're trying to eat, you can't do these things on here on your own. It's impossible. You're sharing quite a lot on like Instagram and Facebook and stuff.
And, uh, you know, just kind of watching that process and it was like astounding, uh, I guess to start, uh, going back on, like in terms of the social and sharing. I don't feel like I, I, you know, you're, you're sharing quite as much, like, or as, you know, as deeply as you were at that time, just any sort of observation or comment on that, is it, was it, is it helpful to share that, uh, you know, you're sharing every like a lot and it was, uh, we were just, we were cheering from, from, from the distance for sure.
The, um, the day that I got, uh, the day that I got it. Calling off the, I was conscious and I saw, I actually saw, I saw, I saw that there's an alien inside of me. It was a big tumor and, uh, you know, post, uh, post post-procedure my, uh, my, my doctor, he told me to, uh, make it a little emotional here, told me to enjoy my sunny days.
And I was like, It's like first thought my family second thought life, and then third thought on Jesus. It means I can, I'm not gonna be like crazy anymore. Um, but I went through a couple of days of, of, of, uh, existential crisis, I guess you could call it. And it reminded me of, uh, um, this, the short story of a prisoner in Spanish war gets death sentence.
And then a couple of days later, They removed that death sentence. So I went through some really dark days and then, um, rather than internalizing it and suffering, and then, um, having that. Perhaps negatively to the people around me. I thought, you know what, I'm going to share this. I'm going to share this.
And that's my nature. Um, that could be sometimes perceived as being a little bit self-centered, but actually I found that it inspired a lot of people and uh, people go, they go one of two ways. I think when, when they, when they, when they are faced with a crisis like that, the other hold it all in. That in itself is not healthy, um, or you can share it.
And, and quickly I was connected with other people in the community who are going through cancer and, uh, they, they helped me along in the process. So, um, I'd also have to say that. When my doctors, uh, oncologists, radiologists and surgeon, um, when they said that, you know what, like, you're, you're going to beat this.
Like you're really strong physically. And you just going to have to do the steps. Um, well, they were a little longer than I expected. I thought I'd be dead by Christmas. And then when I finished my surgery, my, uh, you know, I went through eight weeks of chemo and radiation recovered had massive surgery. Um, and I thought it was done and I had started training again in January, but my oncologist, uh, uh, uh, doctor mom's on Jose mom's on Tom baker.
He goes, well, now we have to do six months of chemotherapy just to make sure we get everything out of your body know. Well, okay. So, so that was, that was a little bit of surprise. So the one thing too, in, in, in any of the listeners here, um, you have to answer it. You have to ask questions. Um, And sometimes you just don't know what those questions are.
So, and your, your, the medical profession, they don't necessarily answer all of you. Right. So we can't make assumptions. So you got to do a lot of fact finding a lot of research. Nutrition is really important. Um, making sure that you, the right thing is to also help. You're a when you're doing. Wow. Wow.
Interesting. And, um, James, we most recently, um, connected again, just in the past few days on Facebook of, you know, our, our common group in Facebook thinks it'd be AB via Vela. Maybe it's the group. And you asked the question of the audience. Um, due to your participation with, uh, I think the Alberta bicycle association actually.
Can you tell us a little bit about that position and then the question that you asked, uh, to try to engage, you know, our community? Sure. Yeah. So, um, I'm the vice-president of racing. So I, uh, scare a racing committee, which kind of oversees a race organizers, um, racers upgrade better, et cetera, but we haven't had racing well for almost two years now, two seasons.
Some minor events going off. We have some track racing, but I just watching what's going on south of our border. And then looking at, you know, when, and I'll get, I'll get to poke to the border. Um, but I'm looking at the scene we had here in Alberta over the last decade, since I got back into racing in 2010, and it's been the same, same races each year.
Um, same events, same frequency, but I've also noticed, you know, we're losing some events as well. We're losing our road races that are out on, on, on longer circuit. And it's getting harder to organize. And then I've been watching, I've been following the, uh, Legion cycling down in the U S and these U S series.
And they're super exciting. And some people, when they hear that word, criterium, criterium, short circuit, one kilometer, I mean the most famous one is NASA, pretty epic crashes in there. Um, but, uh, Circuit races or both circuits. Um, I I'm, I want to see if we can encourage maybe more of them, because I think it's also a good way to get, uh, to get kids racing.
Right. Cause they're not, they're not okay. Um, and the more we do criterion racing or even track racing for that matter, the better we get it by handling fight, the more nimble, nimble we become. But I also thought maybe having some structure. And coming up with, uh, three different series. So road racing, uh, criteria and racing and inserting in some time trials.
So we can kind of at ease the three different communities. And at each month we can have, uh, expectation of doing a different, different types of rates and then starting in some stage racism as well. No stage races is lots of fun. We have one here in camera. We have sort of going as we've had. But they're getting harder to organize as well.
So, um, and for, for athletes, um, you know, it's a lot of commitments to take three days out of your life. There's an to go with to going, right.
Why are we, why are we losing them? And why are they getting harder to like host and organize? Is it liability or the, or Leticia society? Why? I don't, I actually have no clue. Why, why is it harder than it used to be? I think, uh, getting permits to, to race on the open road. Um, why is that harder? Is it Latisha's like legal reasons why.
The process is harder to do. I think it comes down to, um, different communities and pushback from residents who are not in the cycling community and they don't want people. They don't want people racing on roads and, uh, um, you know, want to stay positive. But whenever, whenever I've done two or the bonus, which is a fantastic race bond, Greenwall, you know, Bob does a great job, but when I'm out on that horse Creek road, that loop there.
It's a narrow road and you got oncoming traffic in you, you get the odd, you get the odds, a vehicle that's just not happy as their cyclists folks. So, um, and it's not a close circuit and it's the same here in Kamara. We have a, we have a wonderfully horrible road circuit that has a lot of climbing back and forth on the three sisters Parkway.
And, and again, you know, having the permits to race on that and then keeping traffic away from the telephone. Uh, it's harder. So there is, there's an element of risks and there's quite a bit of liability. And I think that's, that's, uh, that brings some fear. If you would do an organized.
On the flip side, it just quickly, like there are some circuits and we were talking about on that, that forum, like the Dogtown circuit, where the local residents are ranchers and farmers, non-issue there. It's about a 10 kilometer loop. It's exciting. And that one is easy for easier for organizers to arrange it.
It's not too far away from the medical support and hospitals that are. Hmm. Um, and so I was surprised in a, a little bit surprised, um, in the sort of, you'd like to your, I think you were kind of promoting or encouraging more crit style racing. Um, you know, the comment was, well, the crash has happened more on crits.
Um, any, any thoughts on that or. Well, you know, crashes do happen more if they can happen more grist. And I've been involved in several, the two big specials I've had over the last 10 years have been here in camera or , but I don't find them to be as catastrophic as a road race because you typically you're at high speed.
And when you crash you too. Tend to slide. You tend to slide out in the corner. I'll be at, you know, when you're stiff, there's six wheel coming into that last corner. There's, there's a, uh, there's a quote. I remember from, uh, when a Canada's most prolific, uh, bike racer sports Fraser who won, he was broke, even racing.
It sort of France. And he won gas. How many times? And he said the difference between winning then. If you want to win in a crit, you have to be prepared to either be first to go to the hospital. So that's, yeah, that's a bit extreme, but, um, um, when races are fast in the, in the, well Tom's strung out, I find that to be quite safe, but it's when they bunch up in the race flows down that danger, that danger can happen, but it also depends on the car.
And I think the more we do it, the less it happens, but I've seen, you know, when it, when we're road racing, Like the most, uh, impactful and horrendous and big cracks that result in ambulance trips to the hospital. I think I find them happening, right. So you can be traveling at higher rates of speed. You're on, you're on a narrow road and you don't have fencing and padding to go into.
Um, you know, and I, I think we can, uh, Velo city there's, there's been some, you know, up in Edmonton the last time he raised in 2017. You know, math pile up and step four rates that results in multiple injuries that, that comes kind of comes down to weather course design, et cetera. Hmm, interesting. Um, Jim's kind of want to step away and go a little, slightly different direction.
Um, I guess it must've been like when you started racing and I think I started my first road race was sometime after doing a triathlon in 2009 or something with Nicholas group. And. I think you may be, you mentioned that you started in 2010 back again after your teenage days. So we would have both been like in our sort of earliest, mid forties, starting racing again.
Um, and, uh, and I remember getting to cat three reasonably quickly. Like, I mean, maybe it took a two or three years. And I remember you get stuck in cat five for like way longer than you should have been. Uh, and that, to me, that was like unbelievable, but sort of like truthful in the way that we hadn't these quite a few, like really fast guys, like Olympian type fellows, like robbing Clegg and, uh, you know, speed skaters.
If they've been through the system. I just can't remember. Do you have any comment on that? How long were you in cat five before like rolling up the ranks finally to cat one, two. And, um, and, and like, to me, it was just like so funny that you drop a race and you're doing really well, but then, you know, the Olympian would just take it.
So, yeah, sure. I mean, Robin plague, he was with us in our MCC. We went out and recruited a bunch of the retired 2010 Olympian. Oh, that's what happened is your involvement. Yeah. And I was just don't speak in the, in the, in the bath bike's best stuff. Yeah. So I, uh, uh, my first race back was 2010. Uh, the little city I was.
Deadlines and a about, okay, this is a starting point. Um, it took me, it took me one and a half seasons. So I raced that year, did a couple of races. And then in 2011, um, pretty quick, the following. I got up to the cat to the goal. Into cat three, cause I wanted to go down and race in the sort of the mountain cycling class done in the U S um, the, uh, you know, the trick to get out of cat five is, do not blow up in the first 20 minutes and then attack and then just take right or in a spirit attack on the gun and drop half the field.
And then I, I, um, in full disclosure, I mean, I admit, I used time trials, time trials, where I got the majority. Okay, how come you're so good at time trial? Um, well, when I was at, when I was a kid, that's what I did well, I mean, I was a multi-sport out and multi the multi-discipline on, on the bike, but I had a big engine and, uh, you know, good aerobic capacity and really good threshold.
Uh, I just saw my time trial bike though. Uh, I thought, you know, I don't want to do so. Um, I just want to do the short start, the fun stuff. Right? So. Wow. Yeah. I don't know why we have this fascination with Tiki bites. Yeah. Do you see yourself ever owning another TT bike? You know, um, I thought about it, but my, my goal in the future is to do some IQ, work my thumb, some, some IQ tracks.
And, um, which is more road bike. And, uh, I'm looking at a Trek Mentone that has a system set up where you can, you can put on, put on the bars, but, uh, no, I mean, for, for dabbling back in triathlon, it's going to be just the Olympic distance stuff. And, uh, I, I don't see the need to have it. So I see you as like a, like, almost a true, um, RO roadie.
Um, and actually that's your Twitter handle? Uh, Rodney James roadie underscore James. Isn't it then. So, um, how can you even allow to talk about triathlon? Um, and for the roadies in our audience? Isn't that like? Uh, well, I mean, one of the cycling rules is, uh, you know, a bike ride. She'll never. Uh, a ranch.
I'll never follow a bike ride. Yeah, that is, that is one of the rules. But, um, you know, I started life as a swimmer. Um, my, uh, my brothers were swimmers. I was a swimmer. Uh, I used to swim, you know, one of my peers, I can't say I ever got up to his level, but it, for a third time, I was, I was swimming with mark when I was 11, 12, 13 years old.
And, uh, so I developed all that muscle memory. I do like. Um, and my brother, my oldest brother, who I think he, yeah, there's three of us. We got 2, 2, 2 brothers, two sisters that two brothers, Keith, the, the easy iron iron man. He likes to go out and stop her other brother. Jason ex fighter pilot is in Hong Kong.
He likes downhill mountain bike racing season and drama and junkie. I have both of them in me, you know, I like to suffer, but I don't like to suffer for more than three or four. Um, and you know, the thing about triathlon Brian is that, uh, what 2019 I did in my first, first triathlon to be two back to back, which I realized was a bit much to do them back to back, but it was a.
It's completely different, uh, than, than road racing. You know, you have to really, you have to plan it and you have to pace yourself properly. I learned you can't go too deep on the bike. Great. If you come out of the water fast, but that's not a big deal and then running. So I like challenges and. Running is something that takes a lot of work for them.
It's not something I did as a kid. I don't have that muscle memory. I stopped running this past winter. And then, you know, when you're trying to get back into rain, thanks a long time I find, uh, you know, pale running outside of cycling with trail running and like the Exterra has been great for that or for the run.
But, um, I find running to be quite free and I live on the side of him home. You get up on the mundane trio. What right as I call it. Uh, what am I going to show? Oh, what trail? Sorry. Oh, that's beautiful. I'm going to be up at your, uh, I spending three days in Canmore, a third, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, this week for, um, a ride called ride, um, right through the Rockies for habitat for humanity.
And so it's a small group of about 30 of us. And, um, so I may reach out to you to try to hook up for that surf run if I can, or if you can. Um, James has had a coaching call a little earlier this morning prior to our call here today. And, um, My real estate coach actually said to me, we need to plug into our gifts, talents, and abilities.
It seems to me that you're doing that well. Um, and, uh, you do that for the cycling community. Um, I kind of want to throw that out there and ask about your involvement a little bit with our cycling community, as well as, um, maybe incorporating that into my. Interests or our shared interests in like, you know, we're, we're getting, I don't want to speak for you, but we're similar age, but I'll speak for myself.
Like we're getting old, I'm 55 this year, but I still love to race. Like, what is it about. Uh, like shouldn't I, um, shouldn't we be, um, not racing anymore at this age. Um, anyway, tell me a little bit about your gifts, talents, and abilities. I mean, going through a, like a Reese in recent years, you've gone through almost death experience, I think.
And, um, and you're still with us and planning to be for a long time. And it seems to me that you are stepping up in our community and being a leader and a using your gifts, talents, and abilities to drive. Cycling in Alberta. You speak to that a little bit. Yeah. So, um, what got me when I started racing again, um, I was also managing a hotel in, in bound, the Juniper hotel and the, the president at the time of the renowned cycling club.
Now I was trying to get connected to the cycling community and I found it actually, it was like, well, how do you connect with the place? How do you connect with the bike? I went to bike shops, which for me, when I was a junior is like, that was your hub that you went to a bike shop and bike shops here in town were like, yeah, no, we don't have what else I can clubs.
And somehow I got connected with Jeff Perrin and, uh, when he found out I was managing an organization at bath, he's like, Hey, would you consider sponsoring, uh, running mountain cycling club? So I approached my employers, the general manager of the hotel at the time. And, and we, we came in as a sponsor. Um, Multi-year deal with, with RMCB and then, and then just said, Hey, maybe you'd like to be the treasurer.
That's like a must do. Right. So, um, it was key that to me was like, now I'm getting connected to a community. And I, you know, a couple of things, one, I mean, I spent 30 years plus in hospitality. So you're always in the service of other people. Was, it was a learned thing for me. I wasn't born into that. Um, and then I was reminded of when I was a junior, um, that there were people that, you know, gave of themselves to, uh, volunteer and coach youth and support grassroots organizations, nonprofits, because nonprofits can't.
That people like ourselves giving up. Right. And, and, but I, I, I, it gave me, it gave me a sense of purpose. Um, you know, it's not, you know, it wasn't a materialistic thing. It wasn't a car. I feel great about that. I actually, I just, I DRI this enjoyment and I felt a new sense of purpose and it. Sometimes, maybe a little bit too much for my wife that they can't do everything.
You know, I sit on three boards, I sit on the ABA, the RNCC, and I swim couple of my daughters, let me know. But it also ties into something that I think it's important for, for athletes and something that we teach young athletes is the concept of the long-term athlete development program. You know, we learned to, we learned to train, we learned to compete and then we learned to, uh, you know, But then we have to learn to volunteer because it's a, it's a circle.
It goes full circle, right. Because if we don't give back as, as masters and older outfits or citizens to our communities, then how do we inspire the next generation? Or how do we get, how do we get people racing? And the other thing that's interesting, the cycling community. At least when I was young, is there, um, you know, there were lots of, uh, there are lots of youth too who came from broken families, latchkey kid back in the seventies and the eighties.
So, you know, uh, my parents were divorced and I didn't see my father as a teenager. And so I latched on, you know, I latched on to that coach, that mentor, and that was an indelible experience. Never left me. Uh, his name is Robert Gillcrest. He's still around in Edmonton. He's connected with Juventus and, um, Uh, it's just, it just makes me feel good.
It's like I'm currently working with a running mountain cycling club as the vice president, but we started distract routes, program, coaching kids, 12 and 13 years old, 11 to 13 years old. Every Friday night, we'd go for a road ride and oh my God, it's so much fun. Right. And they listen like there's little fizz.
Like we taught them how to do a baseline two weeks. And, um, I can't even get adults to do this right. When you get all, if you ever become a bike racer. Um, the other thing, uh, you know, about community, I got to ride last week with Carla, she'll be use a blind pair athlete in her pilot. Megan, we wrote 200 kilometers by Friday and I learned her story.
Um, And the obstacles she had to overcome and sport, you know, sport brought her out of a dark place, you know, and that's the other thing we have to watch out for, for our, for our youth is that if they are facing obstacles, challenges in life, no sport will keep them on the path and on the right path.
Right. And Carla, this Friday is meeting with, uh, we have this gift program, the bike at the all girls, um, program. There's a dozen girls under the age of 15, they're going to track on Friday night and Carla's going to meet them at eight o'clock and talk to them about, you know, body image, obstacles, how to meet challenges.
I mean, perhaps that answered your question, but I, I, you know, I also, um, you know, on a business side of things, if we were getting into business, it also, I think it becomes part of your brand as well. Right? Like people, you know, acknowledge, Hey, you're, you're a community minded person, you know, I've had roots in Canmore now since 29, 2009.
And. And when I got sick, I didn't realize, um, you know, how important it is when you're connected to your community, that when you need it back, um, you know, that community steps up and they come to your support. Like, you know, I got through cancer even financially because there was, I had, I had the backing of my business partner and I had the backing of all of those people that, you know, you met through those times of volunteering.
Awesome. Well, you can divulge right now or if this is a good time. Yeah, I can. I mean, startup sounds kind of sexy, like high tech stuff, but it's nothing high tech, but, um, um, we're working on a project in spring Creek, uh, um, sprinkly developments, you know, Yeah, I'm sure you're familiar in Creek, but it's in the central Canmore, uh, lots of DelDOT to vacation rentals or not, but there's a new building going up called the Tamarack and there's a 10,000 square foot, uh, retail space.
And we're building a business. That's going to be a grocery wrongs. So a nice grocery store in cafe, or just in the final days of a lease negotiation. And then once that, once that's done, you know, hopefully construction starts to December one and then opening in may, June of 2020. Well, good for you. That's ballsy, I think.
And, um, actually it brings me back some memories of where you and I first met in person and it was Vilo cafe and they're seeing niche, grocery store, which is no longer in business or sadly. Right. Um, so, and then I heard a couple of years ago and, uh, speed there. He was going out of business and downtown Charlotte or downtown Calgary that, um, there was 5,000.
Like stores going out of business that year, like two years ago, a year, maybe just a year ago. And, um, in north America, 5,000 by independent bike stores, what's ha that seems to have changed. There's been a shift since COVID, I think is Denny, have you noticed that. Yeah. I mean, uh, I mean, uh, if some of those bike shops had just hung on, I guess B3 had just hung on a couple more months, if all that inventory, which they, they sold at a discount, they, they, they, they might've survived.
I mean, Calgary's, um, I mean it's different, right? It, especially in the downtown core, I think they were highly dependent on, uh, on office workers downtown. Um, bike shop is doing really well and especially with their beautiful new store McLeod. Um, yeah, I mean, if they have inventory, I think inventory channels is starting to improve.
Um, but, uh, yeah, service, uh, I think COVID brought a lot of people out of the woodwork to, to exercise because they have free time. Right. You know, let's get outside. So go buy a bike. I mean, we certainly see it here in camera and it trail. Just surpass 1 million users over the past 10 years, uh, and bike rental businesses are popping up.
Um, the bike shops are busy services, you know, they're sort of departments I think is what's really keeping them afloat until the inventory comes back. So, um, you know, with art, with art, with our project here, you know, we're, we're certainly not going into it blind. And even working with some consultants in Canmore is underserved.
Like it does not have enough square footage to meet the needs of the, in the grocery sector. And the demographics here, as you know, Brian, like this is, uh, this is high net worth high net worth a town. And there's a, there's a hole that needs to be filled.
When can we expect to go grab a coffee and have, uh, buy groceries? June June of next year. Great. And what's the name? What's the name we should be looking for? That's on deck right now is the Willow cafe and grocery. Okay. Little cafe and grocery. June of 2022. James we're coming up lot. I think a half an hour.
Um, our listeners are gonna start to get angry with us because they want the goods. Um, I started trying to bring this to a close James. What kind of ask would you have from our viewers? From our listeners? If there wasn't ask and maybe along the question I'll ask is if you had a billboard, what would it say?
If I had a billboard, what would I say? Um, Well, the thing that I've learned in that, I think that's an important one is, uh, always keep moving forward. And, uh, the ask that I would have is that if you can give yourself to others, find fun, do it. And you will, you will view a re you will read many more rewards than you could ever expect, especially when it comes to that's terrific ingredient.
Agree entirely. The more you give, the more you get. Back. Wonderful. Well, James, um, how can people reach out to you? What's the best way? And, um, And, um, yeah. How do people connect? Why Instagram? Instagram is my favorite medium. Uh, it's a roadie underscore or roadie underscore James, um, on there. Um, you can also find me on Facebook and sustains Kendall.
Uh, there's only two of us with that name. Uh, I have a doppelganger down in California with the same name, but, uh, I'm, I'm online. If you're in Canmore and you know, on Mondays or Tuesdays pop by to sell it or a wine shop where I'm parked my hat there
and I'm helping my friend Allison with her shopping until we get this, get this big. Or she started going Monday or Monday and Tuesdays. Is that right? Mondays. Tuesdays. Yeah, that's right. One of them for a ride. Well, reach out to me that Monday and Tuesdays. And what's that wine store called camera? That you're.
The the cellar door. Oh, the cellar door, of course. Yeah. Yeah. Excellent. Well, James, thanks very much for being on the show. I'm going to reach out to you this weekend and see if I can go on a surf trail, run with you. I'll be doing lots of riding with my group from a habitat for humanity and ride through the Rockies for a small group of about 20 on Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
So you're looking for an early morning or late afternoon short run. As I prepare for Ironman, Canada. Is that age group up this year. Oh, Hey, good luck with that right now. I'm proud of you for doing that. That's that's that's huge. Well, thanks so much. Yeah. Over and out. All right. Cheers man. Take care.